Oscar was born on the tenth of this month in Newcastle upon Tyne, and will be known by the name Oz. If you'd like to tell me the correct title for him in relation to my late partner Ray, please do so. He is Ray's sister's great grandson, the child of Ray's great nephew who visited Australia with his partner and stayed with us a few years ago. Daddy, the great nephew, is one handsome and lithe dude, and clearly fertile (Stop your thoughts right there Andrew, quite inappropriate).
As we oldies become fading history, I wonder if Oscar will ever be curious about his ancestor Ray and his Australian partner.
Ray had an aunt who at a youngish age married and moved to Sascet,Sasquesti, Seschesuwan, that province in Canada. She had children, who are Ray's cousins, but he was never curious about them. Ray was very much a person who wasn't interested in the past or history. He liked to look to the future, until the day came for him that there wasn't one.
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I think Oz would be the great great nephew of Ray. I have been thinking about my family tree and also pondering correct titles for extended family.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Saskatchewan, you brought back a memory from 50 years ago. I was travelling in Asia and met a man from Moose Jaw Saskatchewan. I rudely laughed because I thought he was making it up !! Residents of Moose Jaw are know as Moose Javians,
So many bittersweet memories. Hugs, my dear.
ReplyDeleteI'm clueless myself, but maybe great-great nephew? Oscar is a nice name. My own great-grand daughter was three months old on June 10th.
ReplyDeleteI like family lineages. I have an enormous bundle of cousins on my maternal side and we try and figure out now and again how my siblings and my grandchildren fit into it. Us cousins are fairly close, and were very close as children. I give up after we hit "fourth cousin to****" and there is the "cousin removed" stuff, which brain bursts.
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I wouldn't say Ray is Oscar's ancestor. Just as I demur when I read of Jane Austen's descendants (which I do sometimes because my father's cousin was a descendant of one of her brothers).
ReplyDeleteOver time, families drift apart. With emigration they scatter. Just think of the standard English plot device of writing a character out by sending them to Australia. Magwitch in "Great Expectations" is an exception to this rule.
As for Oscar, it will depend on his parents. My own parents were, to me, surprisingly insouciant about passing on such family information.
Like Ray, I have taken a minimal interest in family history but I do have extended family who I never know the correct term for.
ReplyDeleteI also have a handsome in-law but keep that between us!
I am sure little Oz will be a joy 😊
Well I get confused by relationships within families so I shall just wish Oz a happy and long life.
ReplyDeletePS: however "inappropriate," surely speculation on your part as to the great nephew's fertility is just irrelevant/non-applicable.
ReplyDeleteDon't pretend to not understand the fantasy of having fun with a fertile daddy.
DeleteI understand up to a point. I don't see how you can get a fantasy baby out of it.
DeleteMemories there Andrew, and the name is a good one.
ReplyDeleteMany people are not interested in the family tree, some get interested when they are older - so who knows.
That is the key Margaret, when they are older, exactly like me.
DeleteGreat-great nephew I think. This summer I am going to go visit my sister, her two sons - my nephews - and the oldest son's two son's - my great nephews. Next winter I should do a friends and family visit to Florida, or people are all going to be dead before I ever see them again. The conversations are not nearly as fun at funerals.
ReplyDeleteI hope young Oscar will always be curious and want to know about his family. June 10th was my late sister's birthday.
ReplyDeleteGreat nephew once removed? I dunno. But long life to him and great wishes for his future anyway. I have little interest in genealogy, more interested in now and what's next, so I'm not good on family relationship names.
ReplyDeleteNever ignore cousins, aunts and uncles overseas. Whenever you are travelling, and cannot afford expensive hotels, Aunt Bessie in Winnipeg will put you up for a night or two. Of course you have to take Bessie and Harold out for dinner to thank them for their hospitality.
ReplyDeleteI have a great niece and nephew. I won't be alive by the time they're married and have kids. But if I was, those kids would be great great nieces and nephews. I think. When we were children, our parents decided to lug us across Canada to Expo 67 in Montreal. It was a spectacle. We took a train. Saskatchewan seemed endless and flat I remember. I think.
ReplyDeleteI think he would be a great great nephew too. It is like trying to figure out 2nd cousin twice removed, Andrew.
ReplyDeleteI have no family anymore except my two giants. My father broke with his siblings so I don't know anybody from this side. And so far as I know they are all dead by now. From my mother's side I know a little more, I even heard that my grandma had a brother who had a circus !! That fits !
ReplyDeleteAndrew, Ray - may he rest in peace - was Oz's forbear, but not an actual ancestor by descent. Just as Queen Elizabeth I was forbear to King Charles III. I like it that there is life in the old dog yet, drooling over Oz's dad. what feature did you did most attractive? Roderick
ReplyDeleteI like the Ray you describe to us. Andrew. I think of my brother's son and daughter and realize that they are the great-grandchildren of my grandparents and tried to share as much as I can about the family with them. I'm happy that they seem to be good people and even though they are on Hawaii Island and not here on Oahu with me, I do enjoy following their progress and having them somewhat near. They were extremely helpful in my mother's decline and passing. I'm sitting with my husband who has been readmitted to hospice care and seemed to have perked up a bit because of it! It's a long bumpy road. I hope you and the boys have a nice weekend
ReplyDeleteEveryone has sorted out the family relationship, so I won't bother. Instead I will feel sad for little Oz, never to know his great great uncle Ray.
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