There is some detail I will leave out to keep this simple. The Australian old age pension is for eligible Australians who are permanent residents or citizens who have lived in Australia for a certain period, are retired and are 67 years old or more. There isn't a retirement age in Australia but 67 is thought of as a de facto age.
The pension is paid by the government from its general revenue, taxes if you like. Generally, wages and pensions are paid every two weeks.
The maximum pension is about $600 a week. The pension comes with other benefits, such as cheaper electricity, gas and water, along with local government rates and medications, the latter mostly costing no more than $7.50 per prescription.
The pension is asset and income tested, but with your owned home and personal effects such as furniture, jewellery....and perhaps expensive art work hanging on your walls, are all exempt. Your motor car is not exempt, so if you take money from your bank account to pay for a new car, just because you have a lower bank balance, that means nothing. But your car is an asset that can be devalued, quite a lot as soon as you drive out of the car showroom. My new car was immediately devalued by $9,000. So at each pension review, your car's value will be part of the consideration as to what you are paid. When my next pension review happens, that will be taken into account.
I think the old age pension cuts out when you have around $720,000 in savings or in private superannuation, the figure including the value of your car.
Superannuation, that is a scheme to provide you with money for your old age is a contribution from you and your employers to a private profit making organisation or a workplace/union based not for profit. The latter generally perform much better. Your employer may pay around 10% of your wage into super, with you paying perhaps 5% or more. You can also put in extra money, say a lump sum from your savings or whatever.
So, say you have $500,000 in superannuation, from which you draw an income of $1,000 each week, you will still receive the government old age pension, of about $115 each week.
If you have minimal money, you will receive the full pension amount of $600 per week, plus if you rent in the private market, an extra amount.
If the dollar figures seem high to people overseas, remember Australia is an expensive country to live, and the wages quite high, with the minimum wage now being about $1,000 a week for a full time 38 hour working week.
AU$1000 = US$700 = GB£530 = €610.
Thank you, that explains your comment the other day about your new car impacting your pension, which had me puzzled.
ReplyDeleteJackie, effectively it doesn't impact my income as the value of my car remains a part of my bank balance.
DeleteI'm sorry that living costs are so high. :( Be well!
ReplyDeleteThe cost of living is quite manageable by me Darla, but not for everyone.
DeleteThank goodness for the special rates for electricity, gas, water, medication etc. Older people need these services as much as they did when they were not pensioners. Even more so, with health care!
ReplyDeletehels, you are a better researcher than I am so do a little digging, I think the concessions for utilities is going to be scrapped.
DeleteI think we do fairly well when we retire. Our superannuation has been keeping us living comfortably for nearly 20 years of retirement.
ReplyDeleteDiane, you must have had a good super scheme. As a federal teacher, you would have.
DeleteI'm still none the wiser as to how acquiring the car leads to a reduction in your pension. Is it because of an insurance payout on the old one?
ReplyDeleteI remain amazed that you are paying someone to deal with your Centrelink affairs.
Me too. Our accountant set it up for us initially and now we only get advice if we need it when she does our taxes
DeleteThe pension reduction was a couple of dollars and I don't understand why. Buying a car is just seen as transferring money to somewhere else. I will email you in due course about why I pay company to deal with my pension.
DeleteI find it fascinating how pensions and retirement income happens in other countries. I am in the USA and am doing well in retirement. It sounds like you are too, enjoy your new car.
ReplyDeleteThat's good Terra. I have no understanding of how the US retirement income works.
DeleteAre you sure $600 is the right number? I think mine is about $800 or just over. That's before they deduct my housing flat rent. I also get a small amount from my workplace based superaccount, apparently there's a minimum amount you MUST take once you reach a certain age and I opted for that rather than a larger amount so it would last longer. I don't know what "they" have invested it in but I do have more in there now than when I retired which is fine with me. But I am glad to be living in the subsidised housing flats because there is NO WAY I could a private rental place. Also I heard the utilities concessions are going to be scrapped so there's one more hurdle for poorer people to face.
ReplyDeleteThe maximum aged pension is currently $600 week. You can have up to $400,000 then it gets reduced and cuts out completely once you hit over $700,000.
DeleteOf course! I made a mistake, only thought of the fortnightly payment I receive. I will never have as much as $400,000, not without winning lotto.
DeleteThanks J.
DeleteOverseas people don't think of fortnights or even know the word, which is why I made it weekly. They will understand weeks and months.
DeletePerhaps the amount is based on assets and income from super which for me is minimal on both.
ReplyDeleteFor me it is my income from super, doing the same shite job for forty plus years.
DeleteInteresting.
ReplyDeleteOk.
DeleteA car is a liability rather than an asset!!
ReplyDeleteOh so true JB.
DeleteI try not to know about it. I will certainly never be rich
ReplyDeleteMe either Kylie, but I have enough to live on in retirement.
DeleteA bit clearer.
ReplyDeleteGood.
DeleteAfter decades of my eyes glazing over when the word retirement came up in conversation, it's suddenly top of mind for me. Whenever words like retirement and superannuation come up, my eyes and ears prick up. So you had me with this post!!
ReplyDeleteJames, federal government employee for many years on an old scheme, you'll be fine. And you may have a bit extra as well.
DeleteI'm glad whoever needs to know this can understand it! It sounds wildly complicated to me, something created by a committee. I get a simple social security income, plus a small income from investment. That's it. No issues about bank account levels or adjusting or whatever. I'm still unable to see what difference buying a car makes!
ReplyDeleteThink of my age income from my superannuation that I and my employer have contributed to, plus a smaller government pension payment. I don't know if your social security comes from the the federal or state governments.
DeleteAh, OK, that explains it! I wonder if the UK pension cuts off at a certain level of assets? I've never heard that but I assume it might. I don't own a car so they can't count that against me. :)
ReplyDeleteI don't understand the UK system at all, beyond pensions seem to be paid by governments, but there was a system when Ray was young about paying your stamps. I've no idea.
DeleteIt seems complicated but thanks for explaining it, Andrew.
ReplyDeleteIt is Pat, which I was I pay someone to do the paperwork.
DeleteIt sounds like Australia takes care of its own.
ReplyDeleteWell, yes and no. There are cracks people fall through.
DeleteThat is so interesting, Andrew. Our minimum wage here is $294 a week. The average rent is more than $800 a month. The math doesn't work, even if you have two people working. Combined, Tim and I make about $4000 a month in Social Security. There is no point when you max out of the system. The more you have earned over the course of a lifetime, the more your monthly payment.
ReplyDeleteDebby, does that pension of $4000 a month come from the government, high because you were decent income earners.
DeleteAw, thanks Margaret.
ReplyDeleteUp until now, the retirement age in Canada 🇨🇦 is 65 years. However, now they are going to raise the age to 67. I am just glad I retired at 65 in 2021 before they made the change.
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