After Ex Sis in Law and I two days ago looked after the her twin boy grandchildren, my just on four year old great nephews, for about five hours, I've become a firm believer in 'spare the rod, spoil the child'.
Ex Sis in Law parked in my spare space but Nephew's wife called me about parking? FFS, didn't you work this out before you came. They could have done a drop off and gone on to guest Government House parking. I suggested some all day paid public parking about 300 metres away, and that's what they did. I tried to tell myself that guest parking is not my problem, but I was already stressed, adding to that, there was some furniture to be delivered to them here, adding to that, they had my apartment number wrong and a neighbour on my floor let them in, added to that the delivery apartment number was wrong, with a timeline of 7am to 7pm. I had to visit my neighbour to tell him what to do if a delivery person called him
With their own toys, it took me time for me to realise they had taken Phyllis' toy bus assembly partly apart. Kosov entered the scene and remarked, I don't know where the assembly instruction are. I stopped the bus disassembly but they continued to just 'play' with pieces, 'putting in back together'. Fine, kids will be kids.
Jass' natural curiosity soon passed and she opened my bedroom wardrobe door and took refuge there. Twin L is quite loving. Twin R is more distant and thoughtful.
After Fire Fighting Nephew and his wife went off to Government House for him to receive his award, we took the boys on the tram to the Arts Centre, to change to a number 1 tram to Albert Park Beach. We found somewhere for lunch, and then walked to the sand park, a kids' playground on the beach edge. L disappeared while Ex Sis in Law was dealing with work matters on her phone. It is a secure park, but I felt the need to follow L. He was on a rotating platform, standing in the middle. We needed to return to the others but when I asked him to get off, he refused and defiantly crossed his arms and stared me down. Such insolence from a nearly four year old towards his great uncle. Eventually I turned my back on him, knowing the area was secure, and found a comfortable seat to look out to sea, where I saw a long distance swimmer's head bobbing past and a woman throwing a stick into the water for her dog to fetch. Mysteriously was a Spirit of Tasmania ferry sitting at Station Pier.
Ex Sis in Law drifted down to us with boy R in tow. We went back to the other end where they played with with a water flow feature. A man was clearly checking risk assessment at the park, shaking play equipment to test the soundness.
L kept putting his sandy shoes on the tram seat on the way home, with me telling him that I would chop his feet off, was ineffectual.
Once back home, on the way them being subdued by a very packed tram home, L went off the edge. Even Nanna, whose grandchildren know if she says no, she means it, could not control him. It ended with him lying on the floor screaming and banging his fists. His twin brother looked on with benign expression.
This is the same as what one of the now nine year old cafe latte twins once did at the same age, and just what now 18 year old Jo did at that same age.
I say, bring back smacking badly behaving children, to shock them into obedience and be fearful of physical punishment.
Eventually they were all gone and I had a mental breakdown. "Kosov, see that bottle of Scotch? That will be empty by the morning". "No Onndrewww. I will hug you and all will be better".
Later, a message to Nephew's wife.
Nephew with his wife and then nephew with his mum on a very special day.
Kids! You are a brave Great U, you should now get an invite to Gov House to get an award as well 😂♥️
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DeleteGawd but you're a saint Andrew. I like kids when they get to be 18+ I am not good with the littles unless they're super quiet and mannerly (I know, I sound ancient). I was co-parenting my granddaughter and I told her what Grandma's rules were at around 2 yo. Amazingly, she complied. She was a holy terror around her parents. But well done you for getting through the day.
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WWW, we grew up in different times and we were super quiet and mannerly. Something changed since then.
DeleteVery wise of you to sit and wait instead of forcing L off the roundabout. "My" twins will be four next week and are also going through occasional melt-downs, only one twin at a time thank goodness, and not every day. Also, sandy shoes should be brushed off before getting on the tram, though shoes on seats should still be discouraged.
ReplyDeleteRiver, as the greats will be. Born days apart from yours. Do you remember children having meltdowns when you were young?
DeleteOnly one meltdown from one of my own at age three. The meltdowns happen because they are learning so much at a fast rate and things get overwhelming and if they are also tired at the same time, the control just gets lost. It isn't done on purpose, smacking or yelling just doesn't help at all. When either of the girls has a meltdown/tantrum they run to mum and get hugged and held while they cry. Learning to deal with things comes as they grow older.
DeleteGoodness, I would have turned my back as you did, Andrew. I find tantrums from little ones rather tragic for some reason.
ReplyDeleteMargaret, as I asked River, above, do you remember child meltdowns when you were younger? Your own?
Delete"L" should be renamed "Hell" by the sound of it. But you survived! Well done old bean!
ReplyDeleteThat would be the angelic one with long curly blond hair. He is a horror but I hope will improve with age.
DeleteI headed up child protective services for many years in the State Dept of Community Services. Tolerable parental punishments could be withdrawing pocket money, taking away the tv, eating in the bedroom alone and saying no to the next birthday party invitation. But NO beatings!!
ReplyDeleteI didn't know that Hels. Yes, no beatings, but put a dunce hat on them while they stand facing a corner. I am not sure. Physical punishment is over in seconds. A more mental style of punishment might be worse. I don't know. Just thinking aloud.
DeleteYour patience was sorely tried, but you survived. Well done.
ReplyDeleteJB, I did, and I didn't drink all the Scotch in the bottle.
DeleteI don't understand children, I doubt I ever was one.
ReplyDeleteTP, I expect you don't remember being a child because you were the perfect child,
DeleteAh kids. That's all I've got.
ReplyDeleteYou got it with one word, Bob.
DeleteI imagine kids of that age have always had meltdowns, when they want to do things and can't manage or aren't supposed to. It's a strain on everyone else though.
ReplyDeleteBoud, I don't remember that I or my siblings did, aside from one brother when he was older., and there were good reasons for that.
DeleteLike WWW I prefer them after the age of 16. I have no interest or patience with little ones!!
ReplyDeleteJackie, at 16 you can have the sullen untalkative teenager.
DeleteThey know that there are no consequences for bad behaviour, Andrew.
ReplyDeletePat, if he was my child, there would be consequences. You are limited with someone else's child.
DeleteI never had kids so it was never a dilemma. Had I had them I'd like to think I would have spoiled the rod (and my hand) but I don't know, had the kid misbehaved enough, I might have been tempted.
ReplyDeleteKirk, for us it will only ever be theory.
DeleteSounds like normal behaviors for 4 year olds trying to navigate their environment and emotions, particularly as they were in an unfamiliar place.
ReplyDeleteObviously violence is never acceptable, and that includes hitting children
J, I can dream of smacking them.
DeleteKids exhaust me. lol You did a good deed, for sure.
ReplyDeleteDarla, they certainly are exhausting. I have to remember I am not so young now too.
DeleteWild times with wild childs. They'll ignore you when they turn teenage.
ReplyDeleteStrayer, they will indeed.
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