Snowy made this comment on one of my blog posts and I've given considerable thought to a reply, all of 30 seconds.
"Many of the loveliest English and American Christmas songs contain references to snow, so I'm wondering if they get played much where you are. Like Kylie, I choose the photo of your own little tree as my favorite. Much of what I know of scenes in Australia come from photos on your blog and others, and they always portray a country that is cleaner and more prosperous than America. I don't know if you've even been here, but is that true do you think, or are the photos I see only taken in the prettier areas?
Random thoughts and writing spilled out.
Yes, we do have Christmas songs that mention snow. From English books in my young years, swans were white, but they are black in Australia. I was surprised to learn this when I was in my teens. We take our Christmas traditions from England, and in temps of 40/105 we will still cook a hot roast meal for Christmas. Well, maybe not so much nowadays, which is strange as we now have aircon and did not back in the days of the oven roasting away.
Australia more or less has the English parliamentary system. While Britain does not exercise power over Australia, it potentially can. If King Charles III tells us to jump, we must. But Kingy Charlie knows that if he did, we would quickly become a republic.
In 2014 we toured Canada from the west coast to Toronto and then flew to New York and spent a week there. I didn't care for NY much but we did see many of the great tourist sites. It is an amazing city, but not the real America. Trump type supporters were not evident in NYC, long before he became President. NYC is a great multicultural city with a dependence on public transport, walking and acceptance. No massive parking lots in NYC.
Australian, clean, green and lovely. It is for some, but not all. There is poverty in spite of our quite good social security for all and theoretical free medical care.
A drunk drug addict lying passed out in a gutter will be picked up an ambulance, taken to hospital, treated and here is a difference. His free public hospital treatment was good but he is then referred on to other services at no cost. As I understand his life will be saved in the US at no cost to him, but there is not ongoing public medical care or treatment. At times here there is a long wait for public health treatment but if it an urgent problem, you will get the best of care by highly qualified specialist doctors at no cost.
Our private medical care system is terrific, if you can afford it. Even with private health insurance, still you will be so much out of pocket.
Because of our social security system and health care, there isn't terrible poverty that can be seen in America. Nevertheless we do have people living in poverty here, and homeless people, some by choice, some not.
We are constantly urged to be philanthropic but we see care for the less fortunate as a government matter and we pay taxes to ensure that the system is maintained.
To actually answer your question Snowy, I live in a very nice part of a greater city of 5 million, but most of greater Melbourne is clean with everyone putting rubbish in the right bins and not dropping rubbish on the street. It is quite a social crime to drop litter and to not pick up after your dog.
Just a memory, thirty years ago I was at the corner of Brighton Road and Chapel Street and a woman threw rubbish out her car window from the passenger seat. I picked up an aluminium can and I think a cigarette packet and handed them back to her through the car window and I think I said something like, You must have accidently dropped these. She thanked me for returning her rubbish. I've never seen such a disposal of rubbish since.
I hate tipping, although I do it at times here when someone goes beyond the normal expectation, as long as they are not cloying as we experienced in New York, that is being nice with the hope of good tip. When a waitress leans over you to serve you your meal with three quarters of her tits exposed an inch from your face, well, not great. Wait staff here would be paid about AU$24 an hour. Not a fortune but nearly an adequate wage. The pay may seem high here, but costs are high too.
I disliked in the US that the price on products to buy were not what you were charged at payment at the register. This tax, that tax and the default voluntary environmental tax in New York State, bah. Some here press for small government but most recognise there are good reasons for our government to look after the environment, the health of its citizens, and their living standard.
It is hard to judge on prosperity. Our wage levels sound comparatively high, but our cost of living is high.
We are a bit like Britain in our traditions, socially perhaps a bit like Canada and and we take in a lot of US culture. We take both the best and worst from these countries. But with extraordinary immigration levels, our traditions are changing.
I can't get past guns in the US. Here you could be a weird statistic as a normal law abiding citizen and be shot by a gun. Criminals here do seem to have access to guns, but normal people don't. I lost a US blog friend by asking her if she could really shoot a person if that person invaded her property. That she and her husband had guns for self defence at home surprised me. The numbers of mass shootings in the US is beyond the pale, and so common they barely make the world news. A mass shooting in Prague certainly made the world news. Do Americans have any idea where Prague is located on a world map?
To summarise, we have heaps of problems in Australia, and we have gritty areas but nothing like that in America. Today I walked along a narrow city lane created because of a building project and it stank of stale urine and had horrible graffiti on hoardings.
The vicious division present now in the US is hard to comprehend. No matter who the Democrat leader is for your next election, I hope the US rejects all things Trumpian and far right ultra conservative bible bashing hypocritical bastards, women included.
MAGA has had the opposite effect to what was intended by its name. The world sees it as a backward step.
I am not sure if I really answered your question Snowy, but they are my thoughts. Australia is an ok place but does have its own issues. My best wishes to you and Peggy, along with your cats.
Nice comment, Andrew. I'm not surprised so many Brits emigrate to Australia. It seems very welcoming.
ReplyDeleteJB, we are quite used to hearing young people with English, Irish and Scottish accents. That's nice.
DeleteI wish you could visit Ohio, especially our area, which you would find quiet, clean, and friendly, if a little bit boring perhaps. lol Best wishes!
ReplyDeleteDarla, your country is puzzling. People who would so hospitable to strangers, will also be Trump supporters and have guns in their cupboards for self defence. I just don't get it. Boring places to live also means a nice and quiet place to live. That's not a bad thing.
DeleteYou will be shocked and surprised to learn that I agree with you. We are by no means perfect but I would rather live here than in the US. My eldest brother spend much of his working life there, but his last job was in Australia and he retired here. At least one of his sons is considering joining him. Shortly after he retired he had a significant medical issue. I suspect that care in the US would have bankrupted him.
ReplyDeleteEC, there is no doubt about your bro going broke in the US because of his medical problems. Obama and Biden did make some improvements but the private health insurance companies need to be killed.
DeleteThat pretty much sums it up, and remember, I'm a yank.
ReplyDeleteKirk, I hope you don't see me as America bashing but on your medical care system, you can quite fairly judge me as American bashing. Your medical care system is dreadful and the world knows.
DeleteAn interesting post which highlights the cultural differences between all our differing societies. As EC says, our own society here is also far from perfect...along with our shocking weather ... but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
ReplyDeleteJayCee, I know your weather can be shocking but you really don't get the extremes. I remember staying in Hexham and it rained for a whole day. The River Tyne swelled and was fast flowing, but we still went to a club to see a comedian perform that night. Five visits I think, and I think the worst UK weather we've experienced was in 2019, the heat and few places with aircon to retreat to.
DeleteYour perspective is shared among my limited social network. Australian themed Christmas songs will never make it to the chart. As a weaker nation that follows suit of US big brother, things original in Australia would always seem to belong to a minority.
ReplyDeleteRoentare, there are a couple of good Australian Christmas songs, but they don't make the charts. Following the US might be ok, but we should never follow blindly.
DeleteAus sounds like a good place to live. It's good here in the uk too, but things are gradually changing and I fear for the future.
ReplyDeleteTasker, we all fear for the future of our 'children', but didn't our parents do the same?
DeleteWe are far from perfect but I wouldn't live anywhere else. I know my grandkids can go to school without fear of being shot. If I get sick I will be treated and it won't cost me my house. If my super runs out I can claim a government pension which, whilst not great, will keep the wolf from the door.
ReplyDeleteAnd we have great beaches.
Merlot, tens of thousands of kilometres of empty and beautiful beaches, some that are popular. We are not a bragging nation and see no need for hands on heart, but it is not a bad place to live.
DeleteIt's great that Australia is clean and green and has all those things to offer its citizens. I don't know any better than to live where I live, not far from where I was born and I'll die here too and only learn of how it is other places reading it about on blogs like yours Andrew, google map touring and other ways.
ReplyDeleteStrayer, to anyone who had romantic ideals about Australia, I would say be careful what you wish for.
DeleteAustralia certainly does have issues, but I wouldn't live anywhere else.
ReplyDeleteRiver, the UK seems pretty ok to me, but yes, I agree with you.
DeleteWhen I was young I want to migrate to your country. I don't understand American love for guns. I seen people in gun shops, almost have an orgasm. I just understand.
ReplyDeleteThe trump supporter seems to be outside of larger city. They're plenty of Mega here.
Dora, I understand how people outside of the big cities feel disenfranchised and grasped at Trump as their saviour. But it didn't happen under his rule and he might soon to be proved a sex offender, a tax cheat, corrupt and maybe culpable of insurrection.
DeleteThis was a good and thoughtful post, Andrew. I don't disagree with your views on America.
ReplyDeleteThanks Anon. I just hope it is not seen as American bashing.
DeleteYou nailed it.
ReplyDeleteThe story about littering reminds me, in NSW anybody at all can report a litterer and they will be sent a warning. The report requires a lot of information and one has to be quick to catch it all but I still find it amazing that we can do it. It's very appealing to my self righteous streak
Aw, thanks Kylie. Someone I know was caught out by our littering law system. It was either pay the fine or attend court to prove your innocence. The person paid. It is quite good that public opinion now controls littering.
DeleteThat was a very interesting post . You've spent a lot of time trying to sum up your country in a few paragraphs. I would find it very difficult. My view of the UK would be very different to the next person. I love London but many others hate it. Too busy, crowded, noisy, too much crime etc. But they might live in a picturesque village which I would consider a beautiful place to visit but a boring place to live. I love the multicultural mix of our cities and others hate it and so on and so on. So we'll done Andrew on your post.
ReplyDeleteMarie, I remember being tired of London, the noise and the crowds but we were in tourist areas. The next visit, our first catch up with you and subsequent meets were fine. London is a huge and very busy city, and just magical. There is always a pub seat in Whitehall for some cheap nosh.
DeleteI remember end the 60 beginning 70 a lot of young people wanted and did immigrate to Australia ! At that time they were very welcomed because there were not enough Australians. Today it's rather impossible. I also read that the Brits shipped whole orphanages to Australia and the children had to work as servants. When I was in Eastbourne each year, many of Anne's friends had family in Australia since a long time. That's probably why if I wanted to go to Australia I have to take the plane in London ! Unfortunately it's too far and 20 or more hours airplane is a bit long. But the USA I know very well. Rick and me made over the years when my aunt was still alive the whole tour ! From Boston til San Fransisco. That was in 71.
ReplyDeleteGattina, I remember that you have travelled in the US. Yes, the flight time is a killer, but you can fly from Amsterdam to Australia.
DeleteThe United States has some of the worlds best, and worst all in the one very large country (comparable in size to Australia?) Our dysfunctional government, limits the power of any one part - it was designed that way - and has saved us from tyrants and incompetence a few times. Primary and emergency medical care is high quality, but unregulated in cost. I had lunch with a powerful lobbyist recently and she listed health care reform as one of her top three issues for the next decade.
ReplyDeleteTP, healthcare, well the cost of it, it what really shocks the world Digging a bit deeper, I've come to understand the profit making forces that have the medical system in their firm grip. It is raw capitalism at its worst. I know nothing radical will happen but hopefully caring governments can chip away at the excesses, as Obama did and Biden has.
DeleteVery interesting post, Andrew. My son has been in Sydney since 2017, and he has a lot of good things to say about your lovely country.
ReplyDeleteEvery nation surely has problems; which doesn't have. But the important point is what those problems are, and how they stack up against the conveniences and comforts of living.
Thanks Pradeep. I often wonder how young people from around the world see Australia.
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