Maybe there is something I am not aware of but a few weeks ago some trains were stopped because of a trespasser on the the train tracks, actually a viaduct, between Flinders Street Station and Spencer Street Station (Southern Cross). Most suburban trains use this viaduct, so it was chaotic.
Football fans coming in from the northern suburbs, whose train was stopped between stations several kilometres away from the city, forced the train doors open after an hour or so. I would not have done this but if someone had, I would take advantage and escape the train. There was a steep embankment to descend and I could have managed that.
My thoughts, the train was nowhere near the location of the trespasser so why was it stopped between stations? It could have at least proceeded to the next station at 5 km/h if necessary. From there are alternative transport means.
Even if there is a trespasser, why can't trains proceed at a very slow speed? I know trains can do this. I've experienced it often enough.
People can be very stupid about things the do every day, but by golly if you jump down from a train and then descend a steep embankment, you are going to take great care. Unfortunately the said train line was further delayed by the need to check that those who left the train were clear of the tracks. Of course they were, they left by the left hand side of the train. Why would they cross over to the right handed side onto other tracks? Again, trains proceed at 5 km/h or even 10 km/h.
Over an hour to check if a trespasser was clear of train tracks on a viaduct? There is nowhere to hide. Extraordinary.
This is all down to Victoria Police and Metro Trains management and it is a disgrace.
It may be an urban myth but I've heard in Thailand if there is a car crash on a freeway, a helicopter with a lowerable hauling claw comes along to remove the cars from the freeway.
But wait, there is more. I expect all over the world tram overhead wires that power trams, and trolley buses for that matter, have dead sections of a few centimetres to isolate one part of the wires from other parts, so that the whole system doesn't to shut down if the electrical problem. There is a dead section below The Highrise and last week at tram was stranded on the dead section. In the past, as I witnessed, the tram behind would push the stranded tram off the dead sections and there would be minimal delay. I've even experienced passengers out of a tram giving it a push off the dead section. It seems neither happens now and the tram stays there until an emergency vehicle arrives to push the tram off the dead section. The wait causes massive tram delays and inconvenience to passengers. A slogan of Yarra Trams is 'Think like a passenger', but I don't think it really does.
Private companies and government departments have become so risk averse to protect themselves, they unnecessarily make their customer experiences quite miserable.
Does Sydney do it any better? No, its relatively new and small tram system is constantly being shut down for maintenance. Its two of three tram lines, the newest, seem to be worse than the older original line, so often breaking down with long delays until repairs.
While Australia valiantly fought against England in football, some drug affected blokes with mental health issues entered an unstaffed signal box full wires and control systems for trains and began to cut wires. Part of Sydney's train system collapsed and there weren't trains when the football ended, leading to chaos. Why was such an important part of infrastructure so insecure? Over to you, Transport for New South Wales.
So risk averse in some ways, but not in others!
Crazy! Be safe, Andrew.
ReplyDeleteAlways safe Darla. Thank you.
DeleteBig, big sigh. Stupidity is a powerful force. And I have yet to come across any transport system that 'thinks like a passenger' or even often considers them in their decision making.
ReplyDeleteEC, I slightly disagree in that trains and trams management try to fix things up as soon as possible after an incident. Behind the scenes there are people working very hard to 'fix' the service. The real issue is the risk averse matter.
DeleteThe delay and pause in my recent train journeys were similar to yours. Plus, kids puking everywhere on the seats as well. I had to say I do not miss human beings after a few rides.
ReplyDeleteNot mine actually Roentare. Mostly my public transport trips, almost daily, are ok. Your experience was very unfortunate.
DeleteSome druggies with mental health issues entered an unstaffed signal box to cut the wires? If the signal box was unstaffed, why was it not carefully locked???
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't put the responsible druggies in an ordinary gaol, but I would _lock_ them in a drug hospital until they never touched drugs again.
Hels, yes, why was the signalling system box not properly secured? I think we would call your suggestion 'involuntary drug rehab', and I think it happens.
DeleteThe train to Bairnsdale was held up for five hours apparently because of someone on the line in inner melbourne. Maybe it was the same trespasser. Trains should have tasers at the front with a claw like thing you described from Thailand. Taser the pricks, lift them off the track and dump them on the side. Problem solved. You're welcome.
ReplyDeleteI love it Caro. A perfect solution.
DeleteWow. That is nuts.
ReplyDeleteA perfect description Debby.
DeleteI'm glad I depend on buses and not trains or trams. Here in Adelaide this weekend trains are not running between Adelaide and Belair as work commences on the tracks, maintenance or repair, and replacement buses are there to take people to and from the football in the city. Extra buses means more chaos on the roads, just one more reason to be glad I stay home so much.
ReplyDeleteRiver, was it the Belair train line we used to travel to Mitcham Station last year? Your last remaining diesel train line I think.
Deleteyes.
DeleteGood grief, never heard about the wires being cut in Sydney, moroons.
ReplyDeleteSound like a long wait these days for the trains there.
Nothing is made like it used to be Andrew.
Margaret, such train delays are probably not new, but should be managed so much better.
DeleteIt does seem overly cautious. I can't imagine there are too many people run over by trains where you are.
ReplyDeleteKirk, sadly mostly by suicide. That is very last minute jump in front of a train, not a trespasser.
DeleteIt sounds chaotic and is replicated here. It's tough for those who have to rely on public transport to get to and from work.
ReplyDeleteJB, I know full well how overly cautious your train operators are too. It is done so much better in Europe.
DeleteCrazy indeed.
ReplyDeleteYou said it, JayCee.
DeleteI admire your passion for transport matters and your knowledge too. Because of my comparative ignorance, I do not feel qualified to comment on this post.
ReplyDeleteWell yes. You and your Korean bomb go hand in hand to get around.
DeleteTransit is very tied up by rules, and seldom allow the operators discretion.
ReplyDeleteTP, that is probably what it is all about, and the rules need to be more flexible.
DeleteBureaucracy at work. Never very efficient in my experience.
ReplyDeleteA necessary evil perhaps Pat.
DeleteIn many ways we are the authors of our own problems caused by risk aversion. Any large organisation these days whether public or private is liable to be sued or threatened by the slightest possible hint of blame by we, the public, looking for easy money. The television in the UK is full of law firms looking to cash in on 'class actions' for people who didn't even know that that they had been disadvantaged by some long ago occurrence. Jaundiced views, me? Never. Well, hardly ever.
ReplyDeleteGraham, it is a sad fact of life, however I am ok with the class actions if there is negligence involved, but running trains at 5 km/h to protect a trespasser is not negligence. Prisoning people inside a stationary train for extended periods might be.
DeleteI agree with you. I've just got a 'thing' about the suing culture that has developed here from the US.
DeleteIt seems we have rather a lot of issues about US culture.
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