Thursday, September 25, 2025

Scandals

It is remarkable how similar the English Post Office scandal is to our own Robodebt scandal.

I've just watched the first of a series of a tv programme The People versus Robodebt. It is probably geoblocked if you are a foreign type. As I understand it our social welfare government department, Centrelink, took payment beneficiary information from the tax department of annual income, whereas Centrelink payments are based on fortnightly income. 

In both situations, it soon became apparent that there were issues. The Murdoch media in both England and Australia both ignored it, both supporters of the conservative governments of the time. It was left to other media to tell the story in Australia, as pure logical information came spewing out. Yet, no one acted. The government buried its head in the sand, only occasionally popping up to say welfare cheating was wrong and it was committed to stop it.

Some media kept fighting, along with advocates for social security recipients, legal people, and those within the system, who would bob their heads up, to have them quickly cut down by their seniors.

Even now with hindsight, like the Post Office scandal, it is hard to understand how long it went on when it was clearly wrong. In both cases, there were suicides by some of those affected. Houses were lost, marriages and partnerships broke. 

I am angry that I didn't do more. I am angry that our media didn't do more. I am angry that our common garden variety politicians didn't act. I am most of all angry with then Prime Minister Scott Morrison's conservative government. 

And in another parallel, no one has had their head chopped off, and someone's damned well should have been severely punished, in both cases. 

Let's see what happens with extraordinary Grenfell Tower inquiry, still ongoing eight years after 70 odd people died in the fire, in one of the most important and richest cities in the world, one that couldn't provide people with basic building fire protection. 

34 comments:

  1. What is the Grenfell Tower Inquiry trying to find?

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    1. Amongst other things - who was responsible for the flammable cladding material - and what did they know about it?
      (Sorry for butting in Andrew)

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    2. Hels, essentially who or what was responsible. The inquiry has ended and a lot is known. It is now with the police to decide who should be charged, if anyone. I think I read that the police won't respond until 2027 or 2028. That's twenty years later!

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    3. YP, that would be the contractors to the Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, who under financial pressure from the borough, went for a cheap option. In my opinion various authorities were guilty. One or more individuals? I don't know.

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  2. Your reflection captures the tragic pattern of systemic failure, denial, and lack of accountability that binds these scandals together across countries and contexts

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  3. When the rich and powerful have fingers pointed at them for their wrongdoing, they are very adept at using a range of tactics to dodge punishment and deflect blame. A prime example of this is The Orange Emperor and The Epstein Files. By the way, that loathsome blabbermouth still hasn't paid up what the court system told him to pay to E. Jean Carroll - back in 2023.

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    1. YP, it was recently published that she is still owed the money and he is responsible for paying it No more than a horse fly bite to him.

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  4. There are way too many scandals these days.

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    1. Linda, maybe there are more or maybe we were less aware of earlier ones. Whatever, they are a disgrace.

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  5. I didn't fully understand what was going on and still don't. I understand welfare cheating is wrong and if you claim payments on false information then you should repay. But there needs to be proof.

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    1. River, it took me some time to understand what was happening, and of course if people were falsely claiming, they should be treated as such, but so many weren't. They were victims of a government computer program.

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  6. Is the Grenfell Tower Inquiry still going? I looked it up and read that it closed in January this year, after the phase 2 report.

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    1. Quite so. It is in the hands of the police now. I should not have the inquiry was ongoing, but the matter certainly is.

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  7. Rick Morton writer did an amazing job at unravelling and highlighting the robodebt issues

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    1. A quick Google and I am sure I've heard Rick Morton the radio speaking about his investigations and his book.

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  8. Centrelink scandal is and was just dreadful so many people. It's really sad, Andrew. Always scandals of some kind going on.

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    1. Margaret, too many scandals, and people think they will get away with them.

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  9. The scandals are terrible, they have long enquiries establishing people's involvement but do we see these people go to prison, the answer is no. Vennells had her OBE removed she strenuously denied she knew anything about what had happened. I suppose she returned to her job as an Anglian priest to repent of her sins!

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    1. Thelma, that Vennells knew nuffink is implausible. Even as a disgraced person with her OBE taken away, I'll bet she is a CEO at another company.

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  10. The culprits move on, often sideways and then up to ever more lucrative roles. Very few ever receive their just deserts. The man and woman in the street are slammed for every slight misdemeanour, and it doesn't matter what colour the government is - they're all as bad as each other.
    I'm just waiting now for the electric vehicles fiasco to be fully exposed.

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    1. JB, they resolve themselves from responsibility in that they will say things like, we need to cut costs, and then leave it to the minions to do the dirty work. They need to be judged by their lack of oversight.
      What is the electric vehicle fiasco?

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    2. Yes, of course River. I missed that one.

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  11. Sad to hear that the least able to defend themselves are accused of wrongdoing when it's a software issue. As always, the powerful skate, and the poor suffer.

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  12. Quite so Boud. There isn't one person to blame. The system is to blame. But, there is a head of systems who should know what is happening under them and in their name. It is sad that after years of improvements in living standards in the western world, the poorer are going backwards and the rich are getting richer, very much pushed by #47.

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  13. Outside political leaders often try to improve the system, using people who don't know how things work, without listening to those who know how things should work.

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  14. Government corruption, lack of response and silencing the truth tellers seems to be a world wide problem doesn't it? I'm sorry it's going on in Australia.

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    1. Sandra, indeed all of those are happening, world wide.

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  15. I had to look it up on Wikipedia, it was awful. Those poor people and nobody took responsibility for the mess, for the anguish people were put through.

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    1. Pixie, after the Royal Commission, the government had names, and it still does, but the information hasn't been released.

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  16. I'm going to have to do some reading about this. (I'm glad to see from comments above that it's on Wikipedia.) It's not a scandal I've heard of.

    Grenfell is an atrocity. People need to go to jail.

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    1. Steve, it is as interesting as it is tragic.

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