I learnt this evening from a friend who I dined with that Pancake Parlour is a Scientology business, its founders all being of the faith.
I already knew that the happy clappers, the born agains, the Hillsong Church, is behind the coffee shop chain, Gloria Jean. Who would drink their crap coffee anyway?
The Plymouth Brethrens is no more than oppressive cult, dressed up as religion.
Yet, our government judges them as proper religions, as they receive tax exemptions etc.
Will such benefits be handed out to Sovereign Citizens? It is another cult, made up of people who don't believe in the organisation of modern society, and don't recognise the laws of Australia, nor its governments. It is odd that the word sovereign is used, since they clearly don't swear allegiance to our king.
The organisation's views are extreme, with a couple of police officers being killed a few years ago by a 'sovereign citizen', and now close to home, two more cops have sadly been allegedly killed by a 'sovereign', the murderer as I write, not yet being caught.
In both cases, the police were doing their duties. It is just too awful. Ingrid, note, one of the police killed was Belgian born. Cops are not perfect, as older and more recent media shows. But generally they do a very difficult job, mostly quite well.
It seems that for police to safely deal with these sovereign state nutters, is they need to go in with all guns blazing, in a metaphorical sense, or maybe not metaphorical.
My life experience has taught me to have little respect for 'organised' religion, but they are now mild compared to those I've mentioned above. Should I connect the cult religions to those sovereign state types? For sure I should. They are all fucking nutters.
Just focus on building a better society.
Later edit: Hels has written some detail and background about the Sovereign Citizen movement.
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I admit to being ignorant until now of these Sovereign Citizens and have had to look it up to discover what it means. I have only had a brief read online so far and need more research but, how on earth can they be above the law and allowed to get away with such contempt??
ReplyDeleteI read a little about them as well. Fuck, like the world doesn't have enough problems already. And religion, not a fan. It seems to be used often as an excuse for bad behavior.
ReplyDeleteYou just turned me off to ever go to Pancake Parlour again
ReplyDeleteMy ex mother in law vomitted in n the pancake parlour at Frankston in the 1970s . In those days it was considered a thing…not to vomit but to go to . It’s not my kind of food and that was the only time I have been there. It’s a cheap and popular place for kids parties . They go home full of sugar and immediate happiness
ReplyDeleteAs for Gloria Jeans who even goes there for real coffee? The name is itself off putting . Unfortunately in Adelaide they have captured the market in many hospitals even in private hospitals with religious affiliations.
ReplyDeleteEnd all religion, end all tax exempt status, and that's just for starters.
ReplyDeletefrom your lips to all politicians...
DeleteI knew nothing about Sovereign Citizens till this week's tragic murders, so I published a blog post this morning, using whatever evidence I could find. How did we not know anything back in Covid Days when the Sovereign Citizens started publishing in social media??
ReplyDeleteThey are a mass group of individuals, with apparently no structure nor expectation of following a cult leader.
Sovereign Citizens is new to me, but sounds like these anti-government types here in the U.S. of which Timothy McVeigh was one infamous example.
ReplyDeleteYou've named a couple of cults that I have never heard of before. In my opinion all organized religions are cults. I wouldn't mind if they would just keep to themselves but no, they come out and try to make the rest of us as miserable as they are.
ReplyDeleteWe have acknowledged officially acknowledges six religions — Islam, Protestant Christianity, Catholicism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Confucianism (Kong Hu Cu). These are recognized by the state, and each has communities spread across the archipelago.
ReplyDeleteAs for the secret to why people of different religions in Indonesia can live in relative peace and harmony (though of course challenges still exist)
I learned more from you in terms of peaceful together with different perspective of religions
Thanks Asep. I remember the Chinese riots in your country, so many years ago. I am pleased there is harmony now but I also know how Chinese have to hide their lives during Muslim religion celebration days.
DeleteAgree with you completely. Andrew!
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly is a "sovereign citizen"? A couple of letters to our newspaper this morning:
ReplyDelete1: "to all those so-called "sovereign citizens" out there, if you don't like our laws, then surely you don't like our Centrelink either (Sovereign citizen coward's police ambush)"
2: "If sovereign citizens don't recognise our local, state and federal governments and don't want to pay taxes or adhere to our laws, then please don't use the goods and services including health and education provided by our system.
Riddle me this, who is the sovereign of the sovereign citizens movement?"
Thanks to Hels, I now know these people are a bunch of self-entitled outlaws.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link to Hels, I must have missed that post of hers.
ReplyDeleteI didn't know that the latest two policeman's murders was by a sovereign citizen! Nice looking Policeman too!
I'm certainly not into these cult religions at all.
Well I never, I see today's post from Hels is about Sovereign Citizens.
DeleteMost stuff connected with religion is bad news - from Catholic priests to Islamic terrorists and from Buddhist mobs in Burma to Jewish extremists in Palestine. Couldn't we just ban them all?
ReplyDeleteAren't Sovereign Citizens commonly known as anarchists? I will read Hels' post . . .
ReplyDelete. . . and now I know they are not and are dangerous.
DeleteI think that if religions are to be exempt from tax they should be supporting charity Nand be welcoming to all comers. I do believe that the fta fox news is to blame for some of the sovereign citizen nonsense too.
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